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Spring 2021 Equity Talks - Shared screen with speaker view
Kyle Hill
42:19
I wasn't able to participate in the poll, but I fee uncomfortable...there is so much I am still learning
Tessa Brown
42:43
Thank you for sharing Susan.
Nanda (she, her)
43:38
I agree with you Kyle!
Mary Torres
44:21
It’s hidden
DC Benn
44:23
surprised!
Mary Torres
44:45
I agree it’s subtle
Don Chretien Rice
45:01
It depends who I am engaging with at the time.
Alice Xu(She/her)
45:12
Same here, Kyle. I feel uncomfortable to talk about it unless I know a lot of it.
Kyle Hill
45:24
I have personally experienced a lot obliviousness at CCSF
Dawn Mokuau
49:07
Staff = all employees?
Tessa Brown
49:25
staff = classified
Brandi Lawless
49:30
^^^
Dawn Mokuau
49:31
thx
Anastasia Fiandaca
51:33
Navy is 2 or more races?
Brandi Lawless
51:40
Yes
Micheline Pontious
52:34
classified staff look most like the students. Faculty do not look alike, administrators are also very different but are a much smaller sample.
Kyle Hill
55:26
I noticed the same thing Micheline
Kyle Hill
56:23
What was most shocking to me were the demographics of administrators; there is a lot of representation that is missing in our senior leadership
Don Chretien Rice
01:11:47
Dr. Lawless could you please talk more about respecting cultural norms vs. microaggressions.
Brandi Lawless
01:12:18
Good question. Can you bring this up in the Q&A?
Mitra Sapienza
01:12:44
“What are you” is one I get and hear used quite a bit.
Mary Torres
01:13:15
I get that too, Mitra
Diana Garcia-Denson
01:14:50
I get “Are you sure you’re Mexican?”
Mary Torres
01:15:12
Yes! That too!
Kimberly Keenan
01:16:21
I get - you can't be latina because your name iisn't
Mary Torres
01:17:42
Yes I get that when using married name...
Kyle Hill
01:18:16
I have been oblivious to any direct microaggression against me as young(er) black male English teacher; however, I am always scared of that students and colleagues when I falter, stumble, and have bad days.
Kyle Hill
01:18:34
that = how
Linda Liu
01:19:12
I don’t like either one of those questions, where are you/what are you
Mary Torres
01:19:53
Don’t call me “Maria” unless you and I are speaking Spanish
Kyle Hill
01:19:54
Thank you Dr. Chen...I struggled to articulate that message
DC Benn
01:19:54
The attempt of trying to be fair when that standard is very impossible to have.
Kyle Hill
01:23:42
Even in families!
Linda Liu
01:26:52
Due to systemic micro aggression at city college, over time people who work here unconciously inherent these microagressions and continues this cycle
Mitra Sapienza
01:27:08
Our system, in many ways, privileges and protects those who enact micro aggressions leaving the burden to overcome them on the shoulders of those receiving the microaggressions.
Don Chretien Rice
01:28:19
The more I learn the more I feel this is the case Mitra.
Kyle Hill
01:33:40
Definitely acknowledge what has happened
Dawn Mokuau
01:33:53
Call out what you are observing in the chat at least
DC Benn
01:34:25
Why are you so frustrated? What is the intent of this your comment?
Dawn Mokuau
01:35:39
In this case I would shut down the chat (it’s like trolling) and ask people to a live conversation later
Kyle Hill
01:35:46
I would hope there would be a way to circle back and engage the perpetrator...sometimes I feel we are good at communicating in "safe" spaces about injustice but we never follow-up and engage the perpetrator
Mitra Sapienza
01:37:39
preemptive grounding in collective community standards? so that when participants mis-step, the response to address it can be anchored in how we are meeting or not meeting our community goals.
Anastasia Fiandaca
01:38:41
I like that idea, @Mitra
Michelle Gorthy she/her
01:39:15
EFF often circles back to the rules of etiquette
Alissa Buckley
01:39:32
Which would be the more appropriate public acknowledgement: “Please be respectful of the speaker, you are being rude” OR “Please be respectful of the speaker, you are committing a microaggression”?
Xiao Tan
01:39:38
I like Mitra’s idea too!
Angel Rutledge
01:39:50
If a person has a heavy accent what would be the best way to communicate that without being insulting?
Mary Torres
01:41:55
HUGE monolingual bias in the US!
Brandi Lawless
01:42:06
@Alissa, good question. Labeling something a micro aggression is important in continued recognition and acknowledgement. Whereas “rude” is attributed to personal attack, micro aggression is evidence of larger social biases.
Susan Boeckmann
01:43:12
I assumed the example was from City College
Kyle Hill
01:44:22
@Yea-wen I appreciate encourage more reflection on our personal intention or angle when we want to call out difference...that really resonates with me
Anastasia Fiandaca
01:47:20
@Elizabeth, I hear that same experience from some of my students who are immigrants/second language learners: that strongly accented English is hard for them to understand. They do often have to switch teachers because it's too hard for them to understand. It used to make me feel really uncomfortable when my students would share that because it felt racist, but now I understand it.
Don Chretien Rice
01:51:54
Yes, please share the slide desk. Thank you.
Mitra Sapienza
01:52:28
@DC Benn checkout some cool resource from Amherst college:
Mitra Sapienza
01:52:29
Mitra Sapienza
01:52:31
https://www.amherst.edu/academiclife/departments/chemistry/chemistry-equity-inclusion-and-anti-racism/chemistry-specific-resources
DC Benn
01:53:33
@Mitra, Thank you very much for the link!
Mitra Sapienza
01:53:54
You are very welcome!
Michelle Gorthy she/her
01:55:19
How do you call it out when the person may have power over you?
Nathan Lawless Steele (he/him)
01:55:45
The power dynamics can be real. It would be great if the pressure to mark incidents as racist/micro-aggressions didn’t fall on the shoulders of Diana alone.
Dawn Mokuau
01:56:02
There are so many times when I wished I had said, “wait a second. Something just happened here."
Diana Garcia-Denson
01:56:11
Thanks Nathan
DC Benn
01:56:15
Thank you very much!
Brandi Lawless
01:56:41
Excellent point, Nathan.
Susan Boeckmann
01:57:23
Thank you. This was so useful. I’ve heard presentations on microagressions many time before, but hearing stories from my own campus and coworkers has really brought the message “home”
Dawn Mokuau
01:57:58
Diana, I want you to have support and allies.
Debora Radaic (She/Her)
01:58:02
Thank you very much Yea-Wen Chen and Brandi Lawless for this event, I learned so much. As ESL student is amazing to be able to understand what microaggression is. I am very interesting to learn more and be able to react in all situation. Thank you very much again!
Ann Fontanella
01:58:11
Much appreciation Dr Chen and Dr Lawless for this enlightening talk! Looking forward to reading your new book. Thank you everyone for this important conversation!
Mitra Sapienza
01:58:16
“G” moment! Love that, Don
Ann Fontanella
02:04:02
Many thanks Kyle for this outstanding equity talk!
Dawn Mokuau
02:04:26
Thank you!
Alissa Buckley
02:04:29
Thanks all! Great presentation.
Marie Varelas
02:04:29
great webinar and discussion, thank you colleagues
Guadalupe Gomez
02:04:34
Thank you Dr. Chen and Dr. Lawless for opening this space to talk about Microaggressions. As a ESL student is it crucial for me we acknowledge Microaggressions.
Matthew Schweitzer (he, him, his)
02:04:34
Thank you!!!
Michelle Gorthy she/her
02:04:37
Thank you! Wonderful
Alice Xu(She/her)
02:04:39
Thank you all for this enlightening talk!
Katherine Maher
02:04:39
Thank you!
Mitra Sapienza
02:04:40
Thank you!
Yi Liang
02:04:44
Thank you!
Diana Garcia-Denson
02:04:51
Thank you!
Xiao Tan
02:04:53
Thank you!
Emily Nguyen
02:04:54
Thank you Dr Chen and Dr lawless for an important talk!
Nhi Pham
02:05:01
Thank you!
Bridget Leach
02:05:07
Thank you so much!
Marie Varelas
02:05:14
Can we get the slide presentation?
Nathan Lawless Steele (he/him)
02:05:17
Thanks Dr. Chen and Dr. Lawless.
Mary Torres
02:05:19
FABULOUS!!!
Juan Fernandez
02:05:42
Thank you for the great presentation. Have a great day, everyone.
Elizabeth Noyola
02:05:52
thank you. it is a great help to be able to talk about.. it is great